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Audrey

and the first African American Senator from the South since Reconstruction, who, incidentally, will be the only serving African American Senator, and both are Republicans!

Uhh....Corey Booker?!

Audrey

I didn't want to disagree with your overall point(s), just that it looked like you had overlooked someone.

Lance Mannion

Audrey, AAAAAGGH! Thank you! An inexcusable moment of airheadedness on my part. I made a quick correction. I have to go out right now but when I get back I'll fix it properly giving you credit for the catch.

Craig Moffitt

More like a river of dark money. A corporate press behaving like schoolgirls talking about a boy band that did everything shy of giving [Expurgated by LM because I'm going to have my students read this post in class and as jaded and sophisticated as they are, there are still limits. But you and they will know what Craig meant.] to republican candidates on national TV while refusing to actually do their jobs. Massive amounts of voter disenfranchisement and gerrymandering. Basically the midterms were a farce of an election, neither free nor fare. All thanks to the US Supreme Court for dismantling the election laws for the last century and rending the remainder unenforceable.

The republicans slimed their way into a victory and the country is going to pay a heavy price in the years to come.

This is looking like we've seen the end of America as a Democratic Republic, from now it's the best government that money can buy.

The model of the French revolution is starting to look really good.

Audrey

No worries :)

I didn't even realize that he was already up for re-election in this round; I found out when I Googled him to double check :/

CheezWhiz

To oversimplify, Scientology calls painful memories "engrams" (IIRC) and "processing" them consists of re-living them in memory over and over until they lose their "power". Explaining unlikeable election results probably works like that (disclaimer: I am Not a Scientologist, so I probably have it wrong, but it doesn't affect my point, such as it is).

Your penultimate sentence nails it: more votes == win. My engram processing is that Fear is a powerful motivator for all sorts of things, including voting. Once side uses it much more skillfully than the other. Hope may be more powerful, but its muchmuch harder to channel and direct. How much Hope did Democrats offer, how much Fear did Republicans offer?

So, voting matters. A problem I see is the conflation between political activism and voting. Voting is not really a political act. People who decline to vote because they cannot "support" any candidate think they are being politically active, but they are just not voting. Once voting was referred to more as a "duty" than a privlege or right (back when America was called without irony the Great Experiment). Or, as I saw somewhere recently, "the lesser of 2 evils is, you know, less evil".

Vadranor

Lance,

The Democrats gave Kendrick Meek the 2010 nomination for Florida Senator. Granted it was a three-way race, but he only received 20% of the votes in November of that year.

S McCoy

Hey Lance - While you're correcting the Corey Booker omission, you should also change Rupublic to Republicans in the sentence about Mia Love being the first African American congresswoman...I hope that's what you meant to say, but not sure based on the last line of that paragraph.

Chris the cop

Most Republicans, a plurality of independents and some Democrats have had enough of President Obama and the election, for better or worse, was about him; plus a lot of people stayed home.It's going to be a long, long 2 years.

Lance Mannion

S McCoy, I sure hope that's what I meant, otherwise I've got a lot to answer for to the ghost of Shirley Chisholm. In my defense, as I mentioned at the top, I wrote the post before I had my coffee. Thanks for the catch. I revised the paragraph to reflect your and Audrey's corrections.

Audrey, I think the Media wanted people to forget about Booker because his re-election is a bright spot for Democrats and the narrative was that there were no bright spots for Democrats. But it's worth remembering that back in the spring the Republicans were talking confidently about running the table and taking New Jersey as well as New Hampshire and Michigan and possibly even Minnesota and Oregon. It was still a bad night, but Booker, Jeanne Shahean, Gary Peters, Al Franken, and Jeff Merkley all winning, along with Brian Schatz out in Hawaii, Dick Durbin in Illinois, Ed Markey in Massachusetts, Jack Reed in Rhode Island, Chris Coons in Delaware and---the day wasn't even a total disaster for Democrats named Udall---Tom Udall in New Mexico is worth taking some satisfaction in, with the added benefit that it disrupts the narrative that America rejected the Democrats. Of course, it's the case that a bunch of blue states voted to keep their blue senators, but still we weren't meant to notice even that because only red states count as real America.

Lance Mannion

Chris, not simply most Republicans. 80 percent of them. But they'd had enough of him by January 21, 2009. And "some" Democrats is about 17 percent, close to the 20 percent of Republicans who apparently haven't had enough of him. I'd say all of this works out to a canceling of itself out. As for the independents, you have to figure out which independents make up that plurality: the ones who usually vote Republican, the ones who usually vote Democratic, or the ones who can't make up their minds and bounce back and forth. If it's the closet Republicans plus the fickle types, then it hardly amounts to proof this was a referendum on the President, unless the opinions of the fickle types count more than everybody else's.

The most important number is 36 percent. That's the percentage of eligible voters who bothered Tuesday. If the election was about the President, almost two-thirds of the electorate didn't care one way or another.

Lance Mannion

Oh, and Chris, a question for you: do you think Dan Maffei lost because people in Syracuse had had enough of President Obama, or because they'd had enough of Maffei, or because they thought Katko would make a better Congressman for them, or because most voters stayed home, or because they'd had enough of Andrew Cuomo and while they were voting on Line B for Astorino they said to themselves, What the hell, and just moved their pens over to the right and filled in the oval there?

Chris the cop

My wife thinks Maffei lost because he's butt-ugly and Katko isn't. I still think that millions of people who voted for Obama then are sick of him now. (read: independents no matter what kind)I think many Republicans waited for him to start failing, particularly at foreign policy before having had enough. And I think millions of all kinds of people really got sick of him once they saw that underneath it all, he's just another self-obsorbed politican.

I agree with you, though, about Cuomo if one of the reasons you're mad at him has to do with the way he so blatently neutered the Moreland Commission

Lance Mannion

Chris, I know there are millions of people who voted for Obama who are sick of him. There are millions of people who voted against him who aren't. They like him. You can find millions of people who think or do most anything. Because there are million and millions and millions of people in America. The questions are how many millions are you talking about, where are they, what did they actually do (e.g. vote Republican, stay home, hold thier noses and vote Democratic?), why did they do what they did, and what effect did they really have on the outcome?

In all but 2 of the states where they won Senate seats they didn't need those millions of people to win. In Iowa and Colorado all they really needed was for Democrats, however they felt about Obama, to stay home. And they did. The question is did they stay home because they were sick of Obama or did they stay home because that's what Democrats tend to do in the midterms.

Meanwhile, in all the states they won except Virginia, the Democratic senatorial candidates won handily despite any former Obama voters who might have grown sick of him. And in Virginia it was the case that Warner didn't get the turn out among African Americans he had in 2008 and I don't think there are many African Americans among those millions of people you're talking about. It's more likely tthey stayed home because they just never much cared that much for Mark Warner.

We had pretty much this same discussion after the 2010 election. I said what that one mainly showed was the Democrats needed to come out to vote in midterm elections. You argued that it showed that millions of people were sick of the President and the Democrats. Then 2012 happened.

The Moreland Commission sleaziness was just one more item on a long list. I never liked him. Only reason I voted for him 2010 was I really didn't like Paladino and I wanted to help make sure he got skunked good and proper and knew it.

But as far as it goes an argument that you shouldn't vote for a New York politician because he's sleazy and corrupt is an argument you shouldn't vote at all.

And, FTR, your wife is a very smart person.

Chris the cop

The Dems lost the governor's races in Illinois, Maryland and Massachusetts. To your question as to who are these millions and how many, I think there's a partial answer right there. The low turnout argument only goes so far.

And FTR, I never thought Maffei was that ugly.

Lance Mannion

CheezWhiz, I don't know that much about Scientology but I like your engram metaphor.

Chris,

I wouldn't have voted for Coakley!

But let me ask you, what are the odds MA, IL, MI, and MD will go red in 2016?

The MA governor's race was a local election. So was IL's and MI's. If the voters in those states were thinking nationally, why did they elect Democratic senators? And liberal Democrats at that?

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