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Kat

Probably not this one, but maybe this will do for now:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/gop-catfight-rove-and-hannity-smackdown.html

GOP Catfight

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Oooh. Daddy Karl and Uncle Sean had quite the spat tonight. How long before they drum Rove out of the party?

embedded video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AeJzpjefH4&feature=player_embedded

Sorry Karl, you and your friends birthed this hideous monster and now it's turning on you. Did you think you would be immune?

Update: Reader ST reminds me that for all his tut-tutting in that segment, O'Donnell learned her gay baiting from Rove himself --- he's the one who beat Ann Richards with a lesbian whisper campaign. (Not to mention decades of Republican innuendo about Democrats' manhood.) She was a little crude about it, but she was following a well used GOP playbook. They just don't usually use it on each other.

9/14/2010

Hullabaloo is a lot harder to search than I expected. It didn't like my boolean the least bit -- kept sending me to the home page. *sigh*

Kat

Bill Hicks

For what it's worth, "down ticket" effects were felt significantly in NC, a state which drifts back and forth betwixt red and blue, and gave history both Terry Sanford and Jesse Helms within a decade. Here's my take on this post electoral moment, from an NC perspective. There is indeed an elephant in the room, and a lot of blind mice trying to figure out what the heck it looks like:
http://fiddlerbill.blogspot.com/2010/11/day-after.html

FormerlyApostate

Interesting. I hadn't heard of Nikki Haley until now, but I just watched some videos of her on YouTube, and you know, she's charming and intelligent. And a very talented politician. Sarah Palin may have defeated her own chances of becoming president by lending Haley her support. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see her win.

actor212

Lance, it is in the uncertainty over who their corporate overlords are now that the defeat of the Teabaggers lies. If we on the left can somehow get them to see that they are working at cross-purposes by supporting the very people who seek to remove their freedoms mantle by mantle, we can pull apart the coalition and maybe even steal a few of the more reasonable ones...admittedly, a small number...to the left.

El Jefe


Bill,

Thanks for that -- I grew up east of you and went to college at that obscure public school just over the county line (bicentennial class.) Good to get some ground truth.

FormerlyApostate,

You're on to something, I'm afraid. She's great in person and, if she's politically savvy enough to survive slut-shaming in the modern Republican Party of all places, she's a future force to be reckoned with. While I don't want either, given the choice between someone who would be dangerous because of who their friends are (Haley) and someone who'd be dangerous because they've deified their own ego and don't know what the hell they're doing (Palin), the first option sounds like the lesser evil to me.

Lance,

Great essay. I want to pick out, or pick at, a few things in my usual rambling tangential way :)

You're absolutely right that Nixon sealed the marriage, at the presidential level first, between these folks and and the Republican Party (of course it'd been a dark fever dream ever since Mark Hanna, but no-one had ever gotten it right.) But another level, and it seems to me like this may be important to their culture and their nature, that these are George Wallace's children as much as Nixon's. The difficulty with my saying that is that then, lots of people will answer on cue, "oh, so they really are all racist rednecks." Well, many of them are. But there are broader characteristics at work, for people who've forgotten the rest of Wallace's agenda. Opposed to sweeping cultural change, over-entitled middle class kids, and uppity women: check. Deeply nationalistic: check. Really just fine with several kinds of entitlement program as long as it does what it's supposed to and benefits "our" tribe not others: check. As someone with strong ties to Boston, you might recall not just the level of informal segregation there, but the "hard hats vs. longhairs" brawls and the strenuous efforts of Democratic ward-heelers to keep some of these (mostly) guys on side. The wierd thing with the Tea Party folk, and this I think is where Nixon winning them over towards the Republican Party in slow measures (first "silent majority," then "Reagan Democrats," by Bush Sr.s time a chunk of the Republican base) is that they've absorbed several other strains that, in the Sixties, were still kind of disparate. One is the strong Bircher streak, all that Constitution-intoning and wacky libertarianism and conspiracy theories shushed in public for fear of group embarrassment, which was always compatible with the emotional grist of the Wallace folks, just not always with the thought-through positions. (Wallace folk were fine with a tribal welfare state up to a point, so long as you didn't call it that, while the Birchers not only wanted to wipe out the secret Congolese army in the Everglades -- a slave revolt the Wallace voters got instinctively -- but also wanted to know where John Galt got his business cards and what color yellow was in your world.) In all that Nixon was a modern glue chiefly, I think, because Republican campaigners made a strenuous effort to tie Wallace to his Southern roots just as he was broadening his appeal, and because he got inconveniently shot right when Dick was copying his playbook.

For something Bill said over at his blog, it's important to remember something I haven't heard mentioned much, ever, but that goes to how un-self-aware these folks are about their very deep cultural roots. It's this: from their perspective, legalized abortion has given them back the blood libel. Now, that itself long predates medieval anti-Semitism (for example you had rival god-cults in Hellenistic Alexandria slinging blood libels at each other as an opening bid in Alexandria's favorite sport, ethnic cleansing by riot.) And today it's again become uncoupled from literal anti-Semitism in places (not always; "Hollywood elites" has been the polite way to say "Jewboys" in America since the 1920s.) But many of the ingredients of that virulent view of the world are present: growing scarcity and uncertainty, envious hatred that somebody may be getting one over on you, unclean outsiders and, for a bonus round, unruly women.

That last one touches on another place where blood libels cross over with the culture of "Nixon's children": witchcraft. And another tangent. For some time now, when people bring up American redneck culture, the ethnic label "Scots-Irish" gets attached to it. Quick shorthand for journalists claiming an interest in sociology (excuse me while I giggle), sold well as a book for Jim Webb. Now there are plenty of Ulster Proddies in America who'd qualify as rednecks, and they're certainly an important component of Southern and Appalachian culture (and elsewhere too, Syracuse's mascot wasn't always a fruit. But there are other breeds of Scots too, like my Highland forebears who were Catholic until the Great Awakening and fought on the other side from the mostly-loyalist Ulstermen in the Revolution.) But they just don't breed enough to equal "generic redneck" as a whole and the last names don't match up, nor do they tell you anything useful or interesting about the strong streak of German redneckery in the Midwest, Northwest, and bits of rural California. So, who are all these folks and where do they come from? I think there's a book out there waiting to happen -- one with footnotes, even :) -- because the results look pretty interesting. Most of the Anglo rednecks have roots in early colonial migration, and so came from particular bits of England in particular: Lancashire, Dorset down on the south coast, bits of East Anglia, and so on. The only two things that knit those dispersed bits of England together are these: there were strong streaks of charismatic low-church Protestantism there in the 1500s and again during and after the English Civil War, and they're also the areas that saw the most intensive prosecutions for witchcraft in early-modern England. As for the German strain, lots of those settlers came from western and Low Saxon parts of Germany that had 1) seen some of the most violent Reformation-era "Judenhass" (the Germans, to their credit, just call it "Jew-hatred") and 2) the most prosecutions in the bloody "Hexenjagd" (witch-hunting) that, according to court records, executed maybe twenty thousand women for witchery in the 16th and 17th centuries. That's all going back a long, long way, but it still seems to me very interesting.

Dirk

I've been wondering just how far to the right we've drifted over the last 30 years or so.
For some reason, I took off on an Obama-Nixon comparison kick and discovered some things that surprised me.

Nixon, it turns out, was far more socially progressive and, dare I even use the word, LIBERAL, than Obama has ever been or likely will ever be. Or be allowed to be by his plutocrat handlers.

Here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Nixon#First_term
snip:
Initiatives within the federal government

Noam Chomsky remarked that, in many respects, Nixon was "the last liberal president."[104] Indeed, Nixon believed in using government wisely to benefit all and supported the idea of practical liberalism.[105]

Nixon initiated the Environmental Decade by signing the National Environmental Policy Act, the Clean Air Act of 1970 and the Federal Water Pollution Control Act amendments of 1972, as well as establishing many government agencies. These included the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA),[92] and the Council on Environmental Quality.[106] The Clean Air Act was noted as one of the most significant pieces of environmental legislation ever signed.[107]

In 1971, Nixon proposed the creation of four new government departments superseding the current structure: departments organized for the goal of efficient and effective public service as opposed to the thematic bases of Commerce, Labor, Transportation, Agriculture, et al. Departments including the State, Treasury, Defense, and Justice would remain under this proposal.[108] He reorganized the Post Office Department from a cabinet department to a government-owned corporation: the U.S. Postal Service.

On June 17, 1971, Nixon formally declared the U.S. War on Drugs.[109]

On October 30, 1972 Nixon signed into law the Social Security Amendments of 1972 which included the creation of the Supplemental Security Income Program, a Federal Welfare Program still in existence today.

Nixon cut billions of dollars in federal spending and expanded the power of the Office of Management and Budget.[110] He established the Consumer Product Safety Commission in 1972[106] and supported the Legacy of parks program, which transferred ownership of federally owned land to the states, resulting in the establishment of state parks and beaches, recreational areas, and environmental education centers.
The first national desegregation of public schools also happened on Nixon's watch.

Plus, there's this, snip:
In addition to desegregating public schools, Nixon implemented the Philadelphia Plan, the first significant federal affirmative action program in 1970.[120] Nixon also endorsed the Equal Rights Amendment after it passed both houses of Congress in 1972 and went to the states for ratification as a Constitutional amendment.[121] Nixon had campaigned as an ERA supporter in 1968, though feminists criticized him for doing little to help the ERA or their cause after his election, which led to a much stronger women's rights agenda. Nixon increased the number of female appointees to administration positions.[122] Nixon signed the landmark laws Title IX in 1972, prohibiting gender discrimination in all federally funded schools and the Equal Employment Opportunity Act. In 1970 Nixon had vetoed the Comprehensive Child Development Act, denouncing the universal child-care bill, but signed into law Title X, which was a step forward for family planning and contraceptives.

It was during the Nixon Presidency that the Supreme Court issued its Roe v. Wade ruling, legalizing abortion. First Lady Pat Nixon had been outspoken about her support for legalized abortion, a goal for many feminists (though there was a significant pro-life minority faction of the Women's Liberation Movement as well). Nixon himself did not speak out publicly on the abortion issue, but was personally pro-choice, and believed that, in certain cases such as rape, abortion was an option.[123]
Interesting also is that all the manned Moon landings of the Apollo Program took place during Nixon's first term of office.

Here's another interesting article:
http://www.nixonera.com/library/domestic.asp
Here's a snip from the final paragraph:
"Almost thirty years after his resignation, Nixon's progressive stance on many of the country's domestic problems remained one of most positive aspects of his administration, as both parties moved far to the right of his reforms on social service spending and affirmative action."

And cocaine-addled Glenn Beck claims progressives to be the antichrist's minions!

When Richard Nixon is looking like a liberal when compared to the present neoliberal president, it's easy to start to wonder what's happened to us as a Nation and where this ideological drift is ultimately taking us. Perhaps we're already there.

I get the impression that Dwight Eisenhower would be drummed out of today's Republican Party. And so would Nixon.

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