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CrayolaThief

Reading this reminded me of how similar the Indiana Jones saga is to the old Uncle Scrooge comics of yore. Scrooge had a similar problem of overcoming memory loss, rheumatism, poor eyesight, et al, while proving a grizzled oldtimer like him could still outdistance the whippersnappers on daring adventures in the Klondike, high seas, and forgotten Inca mines. Unlike in Indiana's case, though, this dynamic seems to work better when dealing with a cast of ducks. Once you've suspended your disbelief enough to accept that the world's richest multi-gadzillionaire is a duck, I suppose there's room for anything.

actor212

First, he miscalculates the width of the hole in the floor he tries to jump and barely manages to catch hold of the edge on the far side and then he tries to swing on a vine out to the waiting plane in the river and the vine isn’t long enough and it snaps under his weight, dropping him far short of immediate safety and he has to swim for it.

Disagree on both.

First instance, Indy has no choice but to jump. He KNOWS the hole is too wide (else why give the whip to Satipo when he swings across? He has to jump because the door behind him is closing and his assumption is the only way out is forward.

Second instance, he swings out on the vine because it raises him out of the line of fire of the Hovitos. If you watch the scene carefully, Jock has the plane in the middle of the lake, probably to avoid someone stealing onto the float. Indy would need a vine the length of the Statue of Liberty hanging from a tree as high to reach the plane on the fly.

Ken

Very good analysis. Personally, I thought Shia LeBouf was miscast, and the scene where his character swings through the trees like Tarzan was both lazy and insulting to the audience's intelligence.

nothstine

Lance, your take makes sense, but was kind of a jolt at first:

I never remember to think of Temple of Doom as a ‘prequel’ to Raiders, even if Indy is much buffer. It fits too much into the more-depressing-second-episode-after-the-good-first-one-that-would-have-been-just-fine-on-its-own-and-before-the-somewhat-hokier-third-episode-that-goes-for-the-rosy-hued-happy-ending-and-reconciliation-with-Dad-no-matter-what pattern of the Lucas/Spielberg machine from those days.

bn

Rana

For me, Crystal Skull boils down to one scene that just stuck with me: Indy ending up on the atomic test site and having to hide from the blast in a refrigerator. I keep going back and forth as to whether it was brilliant or pathetic. On the pathetic front, it seemed even more unbelievable than the alien skull angle. On the brilliant, it was one of the few times I've seen the atomic age addressed by modern moviemakers.

Perhaps the problem is that the movie has a genre-collision issue. 1930s thrillers were about jungle adventures, and 1940s ones were about war and Nazis, and the Indiana Jones movies clearly tap into both. 1950s thrillers, however, were about spies and sneaking, or about aliens and monsters and atomic mutations, and neither really fits well with the earlier kinds that the movies were riffing off of.

Ian Welsh

I grew up around outdoorsmen. There were a few, who in their early sixties, were tougher and more agile than the teenagers they were overseeing on occasion. Not everyone ages at the same speed. The main issue is fragility - some old folks can go all day, do a lot of very agile things, but the recovery time goes up and every injury can be the one that puts their physically active days behind them.

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