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I'm not much of a comic book reader, but still..

What annoys me about the WW costume change is that they try the same thing every decade or so, and it -never works.- A few months/issues will go by, and they will end up reverting back to the old outfit. I'm fairly indifferent to the latest attempt, but if it actually sticks this time, more power to them.

food doctor

oliver, whats a comic book cost these days? and how many pages of comics are in one?
i remember when marvel would advertise "still only 25 cents" before they raised the price.

Oliver Mannion

Food doctor, I don't have a clue as I by them by volume in book form after they have all come out. Geoduck it seems only small changes ever stick. WW's already lost her new jacket.

Kevin Wolf

Re Captain America, I'd call the WW2 era generally gung-ho. However, at that time, with real Fascism on the march, the idea of the government and "America" being two different things was not seriously entertained. It may be the one time this was not necessarily a bad thing.

You probably aren't aware of the makeover Wonder Woman got in the early 70s (partially but not seriously as a response to feminism). She no longer had a "superhero costume" at all, more of a white jumpsuit or pants suit. The covers emphasized that she was Diana Prince as much as Wonder Woman. (They also emphasized victimization, but that's another story.) I don't recall if DC at that time "officially" stated that basically Wonder Woman no longer had a secret identity or indeed did not exist outside of the Diana Prince persona.

Good post, sir.

Oliver Mannion

Thank you Kevin.


Well said Oliver. I'm not sure which comics of his you have read, but there are plenty of other examples. Some of the stuff the Falcon was saying back in the day would make the heads of those complaining about the movie explode. And Cap agreed with him.

It's good that someone is getting this on the record.

Still, I feel like the people complaining about this will complain about anything that isn't jingoistic American nationalism regardless of how much they know about it. Freedom fries all over again ...

Oliver Mannion

Thanks wsn. Yeah I've got the feeling that those people wouldn't like the Falcon either.


Oliver, you're exactly right. The people who tend to get the most "outraged" over some change in a comic book typically don't read comic books. Similarly, every so often news stations interview people who don't go to the movies and wouldn't anyway to complain about what Hollywood's making. Catering to people who don't buy your product and probably never will doesn't make for a good business plan. It's not as bad as the whole Seduction of the Innocent shtick, but it's related in spirit. (Actual comic book fans and readers are free to criticize away, of course.)

If you haven't seen it yet, you'd probably enjoy the good-but-not-great doc Comic Book Confidential (1988).

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