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mac macgillicuddy

This to say about that have I: I don't understand why anyone would think George Lucas is any kind of a political philosopher or activist, much less enough of one to bury any kind of commentary in this long, drawn out, overblown, hogwash of a story. The first Star Wars movie -- which was episode 4, not 1, despite our children's confusion -- was marketed with the tag line, "Never before has so much money been spent just for fun!" or something like that. At that time, we had no idea that there was a saga, and the makers of the movie had no idea whether or not there would be a second movie.

Moreover, in the first movie, Darth Vader muses that "the force is strong with this one," about Luke, suggesting that he has no idea that Luke is his son. This means that by the time Luke was his son in the second movie, something had happened off screen that tipped Darth off.

I think it was that George Lucas got the idea that it might be cool if Darth Vader were Luke's father.

Anyway, if the fourth movie had been the first movie, there would have been no second. And if the second movie had been the first movie, George Lucas never would have worked again in this hemisphere.

No political observer is he -- he was just making up a story as he went along, and if he knows anything about republics, it's just that the people in them buy movies.

To end, I'll just add that our 7 year old was so bored with the first movie that he merely tolerated the second as a bridge to get to the one all his friends are talking about -- episode 3 -- which is the sixth, and likely the last -- movie. He wants to see episode 3, but he's not going to. At least not on the big screen, because of all we've read about it. I used to think I might want to go see it for myself, but I think I'll just let the first movie (episode 4)-- the purest of them all because it had nothing to prove -- sit with me as what Star Wars is all about.

Psst--it's a movie!

mac macgillicuddy

"And if the second movie had been the first movie"

To clarify, I meant if episode 2 had been the first movie. The second movie, Empire Strikes Back, was a good one.

Lance

Mac,

Lucas didn't have control over the advertising for the first movie. And the script for it was adapted from a long narrative he'd been working on since film school. The main thing was that when he made Star Wars he didn't know if he'd get to make another movie, period, let alone another in the series, so he had to make it more self-contained.

But as soon as he started work on the Empire Strikes Back he began to include all the plot points that turned into the next four movies. I don't know why he left out of the series the moment when Vader discovers Luke is his son. But one thing you should do is go back and look at the original. When Luke asks Obi wan what happened to his father, Obi wan lies. Look at Alec Guiness closely. He goes all shifty. Lucas told him to play it as though he's keeping someothing secret.

None of this makes up for what he's done with the three prequels.

mac macgillicuddy

"When Luke asks Obi wan what happened to his father, Obi wan lies. Look at Alec Guiness closely. He goes all shifty."

We just watched that one, actually. It's true. Ben is clearly lying. Btw, interesting that Ben says the light saber is from a more "civilized time" and then when we see that time period in the three prequels, it's hard to believe that any Jedi would think of a culture like that of the Republic in its latter days as anything but barbaric.

Two more things -- One, Ewan MacGregor does a great, and a consistent, job of playing Obi-Wan as if he really would grow old to be Alec Guinness. '

And two, my actual theory is that all six of the Star Wars movies are thinly veiled Scientology manifestos.

Azbob

Star wars, schmar wars. I watched and was truly amazed at the first one. I can't even think of how many times I viewed this thing (we had a drive-in near our home and could get in free every time we tried.) I never "snuck-in" to any other movie. It was like the thing to do on a weekday night; load up the car, get our beach chairs and coolers and go to the movies. Which meant "star wars."
I digress by thinking of these times, but hell, we are the reason of our season. I often look back with a nostalgiac take on life and wonder if I were a inbred loony could I fathom the crap I am inundated with on a daily basis. I answer to myself in the negative. I am sadly alone in my life and those who share my reluctance are sadly alone also. We are in the middle part of the great scam and we don't realize it. I'm going to take a nap now...
When I wake I hope this thing is over, but it won't be and I will have to trudge through what appears to be a normal day.

Azbob

Star wars, schmar wars. I watched and was truly amazed at the first one. I can't even think of how many times I viewed this thing (we had a drive-in near our home and could get in free every time we tried.) I never "snuck-in" to any other movie. It was like the thing to do on a weekday night; load up the car, get our beach chairs and coolers and go to the movies. Which meant "star wars."
I digress by thinking of these times, but hell, we are the reason of our season. I often look back with a nostalgiac take on life and wonder if I were a inbred loony could I fathom the crap I am inundated with on a daily basis. I answer to myself in the negative. I am sadly alone in my life and those who share my reluctance are sadly alone also. We are in the middle part of the great scam and we don't realize it. I'm going to take a nap now...
When I wake I hope this thing is over, but it won't be and I will have to trudge through what appears to be a normal day.

Azbob

Star wars, schmar wars. I watched and was truly amazed at the first one. I can't even think of how many times I viewed this thing (we had a drive-in near our home and could get in free every time we tried.) I never "snuck-in" to any other movie. It was like the thing to do on a weekday night; load up the car, get our beach chairs and coolers and go to the movies. Which meant "star wars."
I digress by thinking of these times, but hell, we are the reason of our season. I often look back with a nostalgiac take on life and wonder if I were a inbred loony could I fathom the crap I am inundated with on a daily basis. I answer to myself in the negative. I am sadly alone in my life and those who share my reluctance are sadly alone also. We are in the middle part of the great scam and we don't realize it. I'm going to take a nap now...
When I wake I hope this thing is over, but it won't be and I will have to trudge through what appears to be a normal day.

Azbob

sorry, i clicked once and this is the thanks I get. Computers, schmuters...

AngleFrogHammer

Hmmm isn't the statement "Only the sith deal in absolutes" in itself an absolute therefore by obi-wans own logic he is saying he is the sith...

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