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Brian

This isn't convincing. The statement that you wind up rooting against of players and coaches who are good at their jobs is true no matter how you decide which team to root for. At least it isn't arbitrary if you pick to root against a team because of their friendly association with autocrats. This state origin argument is crazy. Just because Uber is headquartered in California doesn't mean I'm going to cheer them on as they try to break a solidarity strike of cab drivers with individuals protesting at the JFK airport.

Owners own the team and represent the team. If someone goes wrong with the team they are the ones that will get sued, not some nebulous fan base.

Falstaff

I mean, I was rooting against the Pats for a number of reasons.

1. Bill Belichick strikes me as exactly the kind of hypermasculine screamer that keeps me away from a lot of sports, especially the various kinds of football. And as a bully, which... is not insignificant to me.

2. In my experience, Patriots fans are largely like unto Cardinals fans in baseball -- they're generally rude, entitled, and come off as big jerks a lot of the time. (When it comes to sports, I mean.)

3. I don't like organizations that cheat -- which I define here as trying to win games through unfair means, like signal-stealing. The Patriots did that, and recently, hence I can't in good conscience root for them. (If I'm a fan of anybody in the NFL -- and I'm mostly a rugby guy when it comes to football codes -- it's partly the Seahawks, because of local pride, or the Packers, because I like the idea of a team being owned by its fans.)

Basically, I think Brian's right.

Falstaff

Huh. Last point -- I find myself wondering how interacting with Pats fans in New England or points around would be. There's been a lot of regional tension involved in my conversations with Pats fans.

Lance Mannion

Falstaff, I'm a Boston fan. I spent four years in the bleachers at Fenway.

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