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Sherri

The young woman who was the intended recipient of the Congressman's other photograph, the one not of his bare chest, has claimed in an interview that she did not want a picture of said body part and that she didn't get the intended joke and that the photograph was out of line with the conversation they had been having. To me, that makes the behavior of the Congressman much more troubling.

Lance Mannion

Other photograph? Uh-oh. I think I've fallen behind on this one.

Vadranor

You forgot to mention that he signed a contract to provide commentary on Fox News.

Sherri

I'm referring to the picture of his underwear clad erection, that he sent to the community college student in Seattle. She claims that she did nothing to invite such a photo and didn't think it was funny.

Bill Altreuter

I often think about how awkward Thanksgiving must be for this family.

actor212

Nicely put, Lance

Sherri, said recipient was originally quoted as saying she didn't mind. Ergo, we can immediately disregard anything she has to say on the subject as having been warped.

Sherri

Sure, since a 21 year old community college student is suddenly the center of a media storm for having a received a photo that a Congressman is denying sending her, let's take her first comments as the final word.

spiny

Exactly right Lance- Evan Bayh should have been excoriated by the press, but instead the corporate media regards selling out your constituents interests for corporate dollars as the norm, and frankly it's what they expect from all our "sensible" politicians- the president included. That they would rather cover a minor sex scandal 24/7 than the fact that we are increasingly legalizing corruption of our government tells you all you have to know.

redactor

It's entirely a matter of perspective, as Lance points out. Until the media gets upset about Evan Bayh's behavior, I cannot take them seriously about Weinergate. Apparently Weiner's constituents feel the same way.

Which is not to condone Weiner's behavior, only to say that there is a great deal more to morality than being circumspect about what you display on Twitter.

Lance Mannion

Thanks, folks, I wish Weiner was more worth the effort.

Sherri, I think I'm still behind. I thought she never saw that picture because Weiner had deleted practically immediately. I know her life's been turned upside down and he's responsible because he didn't consider what would happen if he messed up or anyone found out---and really because he shouldn't have been doing any of this after he got married---but that's not why the Villagers are on their high-horses.

Sherri

Lance, according to the interview she gave to the New York Times, Gennette Cordova did receive the picture from Weiner, and it wasn't in line with the tenor of the other messages they had exchanged. I agree with you that what Bayh has done deserves more opprobrium than it has received, and that the Villagers will hop on anything sex-related to distract from important things. However, I have a problem with just excusing Weiner's behavior as no big deal. Consent matters.

Rana

Sherri - agreed. The difference between the two acts is that Weiner has imposed himself on others without their consent, while Bayh has prostituted himself and acted as a pimp for willing customers. Both are unethical, but one act is consensual (meaning all involved are liable) and the other was not (meaning that there is a victim as well as a culprit).

El Jefe

Rana,

That was nicely and clearly put. (Which I say both because I agree with it and because concision was never my friend like that.)

Lance Mannion

There doesn't need to be any contest between Bayh and Weiner. Both can be scum. But Bayh is representative of a culture of corruption. He was perfectly willing to kill the ACA to protect his wife's industry's profits, which means he's willing to let people die for money. That's pretty bad. My point was that the DC establishment doesn't see this kind of corruption as bad or even as corruption. It's not him, that's why I didn't use his name. It's the whole damn lot of them.

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