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Beel

The argument you're critiquing is so utterly stupid it gives me grave concerns for the Republic. Why not go the full mile--my mother was always certain that to be an actor was to be gay, and in other ways fucked up as well. It was a profession to be avoided like the plague, along with being a musician (if you were a musican you were a drunk and a dope fiend, not to mention a failure). Anyways--a male actor was a man without a center. A female actor was a wanton slut of course. And you know how they did plays in Shakespeare's day. Not to mention even Shakespeare's name!

SimplerDave

Or, as Dan Savage puts it:

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/05/11/cheyenne-jackson

(Contains strong language of a sexual nature, but you knew that before you clicked the link)

velvet goldmine

David Hyde Pierce....as long as we're playing.

Self-hating anythings are tiresome, as if they never grew out of mocking their own kind just to drive Mommy and Daddy crazy. Ann Coulter, Michael Steele and in this case Sedootah.

BUT. What's insane is calling for a boycott of Newsweek, as the creator of Glee is doing. The public dialogue is great, but he shouldn't be treated as a pariah for acknowledging that we're all infants when it comes to processing art vs. life?

What ever happened to someone raising a semi-valid point (After all, Sean Hayes is not a comic genius, and he may have only two speeds--Serious Actor and Just Jack) and tossing out the political football that the way our culture relentlessly hounds our better-known actors makes it is tragically hard for us to separate their lives from their roles? Or at least creates a subtext that informs the viewing?

We can cite Rock Hudson and Monty Clift all day long, but the reality is we never saw them caught in their love nests, never saw them talk matter-of-factly about their same-sex spouses, never saw them evolve from the closet to cozy out-and-proud domestic bliss, the way we have Ellen, Rosie and Wanda.

Right now we seem to be in what I hope is a transition period in which public figures can be fairly open about their orientation (women more than men) without being driven out of their chosen fields (Hollywood more than Washington), but yet still feel the reverberations in the form of not always getting the wide range of roles they might have gotten if they'd stayed closeted. I don't know if Ellen WANTS to do another Mr. Right, for example, but I don't think she's going to get the chance any time soon.

Susie

"What ever happened to someone raising a semi-valid point (After all, Sean Hayes is not a comic genius, and he may have only two speeds--Serious Actor and Just Jack) and tossing out the political football that the way our culture relentlessly hounds our better-known actors makes it is tragically hard for us to separate their lives from their roles? Or at least creates a subtext that informs the viewing?"

I agree. Setoodeh could have put his case with more nuance, but it is true that the fantasies of the mass audience plays a powerful role in the success of movie stars, especially those whose popularity is based all or in part on sex appeal. In Hayes' case, it may be just a fact that he has become typed and will have work to do trying to escape the typecasting. Or he may not have enough variety to escape it.

One reason John Gielgud never tried for a major career in movies was because he feared he would come across on camera as too effeminate, although he was safely closeted at the time. (He may not have been wrong in his own case.) Onstage he was a famous matinee idol, with women screaming in the stalls, but even in the theater he stayed mainly with classical roles where love and sex were handled in more stylized ways. Eventually he did play a straight man in a contemporary context successfully on film, in "Providence," late in his career.

"Right now we seem to be in what I hope is a transition period in which public figures can be fairly open about their orientation (women mroe than men) without being driven out of their chosen fields..."

Lesbianism has always been less toxic as an issue. This is nice for gay women in a way, allowing them to fly under the radar in a way that gay men can't, but I suspect it is connected with the traditional inferior position of women - it matters less what they do with each other.

Valiant

"It’s also true that some gay very talented gay actors will never be able to play romantic leads, for the same reason a lot of straight actors will never play romantic leads. They don’t fit the parts."

Yes, but to suggest that the reason for their unfitness has nothing to do with their sexuality is disingenuous.

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