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Rana

From my current US survey textbook (Out of Many)...

Regarding the Kennedy assassination, they note that Oswald was the accused killer, and that "Kennedy's death gave rise to a host of conspiracy theories, none of which seems provable." Nothing about LBJ or Vietnam comes up.

Regarding Star Wars, they note that it was Reagan's idea, that critics were doubtful, that it was expensive, and that " The prospect of meaningful arms control dimmed in this atmosphere, and US-Soviet relations deteriorated." Nothing about Reagan's intentions or desire for war is mentioned.

Regarding 9/11 (which is just recent enough it doesn't really belong in a history textbook), it bluntly says "Terrorists attack World Trade Center and Pentagon." No government conspiracies in sight anywhere.

So, yeah. There are lies here, but we ain't the ones telling them.

(Which nicely proves your point, both about them and us - note that I went right to the books to respond!)

marianne19

Lance,
I've been reading Charles Pierce's Idiot America and his theory is that "the idiots have won." Why? Because " a fact is now defined as something believed by so many people that television notices their belief and truth is measured by how fervently they believe it."

You used the term "alternative facts," but in Idiot America anyone can have their own facts.

I'm about halfway through the book--taking a break because it stopped being funny.

rapido

Lance,
Great writing. I found you through Roy Edroso's link. Your post reminded me of JL Austin and David Shapiro's writing on performative speech and speech acts and by quoting them I think I just proved your point in a different post as well:

http://tinyurl.com/yccrtj3

Thanks for the read.

Brad

I've been reading Charles Pierce's Idiot America and his theory is that "the idiots have won." Why? Because " a fact is now defined as something believed by so many people that television notices their belief and truth is measured by how fervently they believe it."

Over at Slacktivist Fred Clark has been saying, liberals play Jeopardy and conservatives play Family Feud.

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